Since Ryzen 7 5800X3D vs Ryzen 9 5900Xcompared, but with the AMD 7 5800X3D, AMD wanted to give Intel’s 12th Generation Lineup of Alder Lake CPUs one last run for its money. AMD’s last tribute to the great AM4 CPU Platform is the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, which claims 15% better average gaming performance at FHD (1920 x 1080) resolution than the Ryzen 9 5900X, which was AMD’s previous Best Gaming CPU.
The Ryzen 7 5800X3D’s specs are similar to those of the Ryzen 9 5900X, but it has lower clock speeds, a lower voltage limit, a locked multiplier, and fewer cores and threads than the Ryzen 9 5900X (12x and 24x vs. 8x and 16x). Both CPUs are built on a 7nm chip and can only use DDR4 memory. They also don’t have any built-in graphics. So, can the Ryzen 7 5800X3D and its new 3D V-Cache design (which gives the CPU 96 MB of L3 Cache compared to the 5900X’s 64 MB) beat the Ryzen 9 5900X and unseat it as the best CPU for gaming in 2022?
What’s new in the Ryzen 7 5800X3D?
penultimate week, AMD unveiled the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, its penultimate Zen 3 CPU. Ryzen 7 5800X3D adds functionality to the original Ryzen 7 5800X. The specs of the old Ryzen 7 5800x and the new Ryzen 5800X3D show important similarities and variances.
As you may expect, the Ryzen 7 5800X3D and 5800X share a 7nm process and Zen 3 architecture. Eight cores and 16 threads are also the same. Both CPUs use the same AM4 socket, making upgrades easier. The Ryzen 7 5800X and 5800X3D both have 105 W default TDP. Where is the main difference between the original Ryzen 7 5800X and the new 3D version?
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The new Ryzen 7 5800X3D has slightly faster clock rates than the original. The new Ryzen 7 5800X lowers its base and boosts frequencies from 3.8 GHz and 4.7 GHz to 3.4 GHz and 4.5 GHz. What’s new about the Ryzen 7 5800X3D?
Ryzen 7 5800X3D has AMD’s new 3D V-Cache technology, which is the crucial difference. This 3D V-Cache is a quicker L3 cache that speeds up AIs, crowds, mechanics, and other rendering. The CPU swiftly accesses a portion of critical memory in the L3 cache. The CPU can load that memory faster from the L3 cache instead of the RAM.
AMD quadrupled the 5800X3D’s 32 MB L3 cache to 96 MB. This is the first Ryzen processor with 64 MB of L3 cache on top of 32 MB. AMD’s Ryzen 7 5800X improves L3 cache by 20%, but clock rates are lower. However, the Ryzen 7 5800X and 5800X3D share cores and threads.
Ryzen 9 5900X Background
AMD’s flagship Zen 3 CPU was Ryzen 9 5900X introduced in late 2020. AMD called the Ryzen 7, 5800X3D their fastest processor before its introduction. It had the most cores and threads and the quickest clock rates of the 5000 series Ryzen processors, second only to the Ryzen 9 5950X. The specifications show that the Ryzen 9 5900X uses AM4 sockets and the same 7nm design as the Ryzen 7 5800X3D.
The Ryzen 9 5900X boasts the most cores and the fastest base and overclocked clock speeds at 3.7 GHz and 4.8 GHz, respectively. The Ryzen 9 5900X, unlike the 5800X3D, was targeted for gaming and performed well in stock and overclocked tests.
The Ryzen 9 5900X has 105W TDP and no stock cooler. This matches the Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU Cooler. Both processors consume the same amount of power on base clocks, however, people say the Ryzen 7 5800X uses less power and is warmer, which is strange. AMD’s second-best Zen 3 CPU is Ryzen 9 5900X. After releasing the last Zen 3 CPU, the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, things are unclear. We need a comparison to determine AMD’s fastest CPU.
In numerous popular games, we’ll compare the Ryzen 7 5800X3D versus the Ryzen 9 5900X. We’ll analyze 25 games’ average FPS, resolution settings, and other aspects. Before that, For Gamers on YouTube did all the testing and benchmarking.
- CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X3D / Ryzen 9 5900X
- RAM: 2 x 16 GB DDR4 3600MHz
- GPU: RTZ 3090TI 2150 MHz
- SSD: Samsung 980 EVO Plus SSD 1TB
- Cooler: Corsair 360mm AIO
Matrix Awakens Big City Demo
Matrix Awakens Big City Demo demonstrated Unreal 5 Engine capabilities. The simulation looked terrific, and the graphics were unmatched. As tested on top settings, Matrix Awakens Demo is CPU and GPU taxing and looks excellent.
Ryzen 7 5800X3D averaged 111 FPS at 1080p and 77 FPS with 1% low FPS reductions. The Ryzen 9 5900X saw a 112 FPS differential with 77 FPS on 1% lows. There was little difference in 1080p resolution.
The Ryzen 7 5800X3D and Ryzen 9 5900X performed similarly on 1440p, with the former at 86 FPS and the latter at 87. Ryzen 7 5800X3D and Ryzen 9 5900X decreased to 60 and 55 FPS on 1% FPS decreases.
Soul’s game Elden Ring was released in February and was a hit. The maximum settings were also tested. It’s CPU-intensive and less GPU-intensive than other games because it relies on core and thread performance. The game also depends significantly on the CPU’s cache, which will affect outcomes.
Ryzen 7, 5800X3D averaged 130 FPS at 1080p, with the lowest frame dips at 1% at 88 FPS. But the Ryzen 9 5900X was a hair behind in average FPS at 130 FPS and 1% below at 85 FPS.
Ryzen 9 5900X had 116 FPS at 1440p, while Ryzen 7 5800X3D had 115. The Ryzen 9 5900X dropped 1% lower FPS at 78 FPS than the Ryzen 7 5800X3D at 75 FPS.
God of War
God of War, another 2018 smash, is lauded for its stunning setting. The game needs a sound graphics card and processor to produce such gorgeous images. Although well-optimized for PC, the game is CPU- and GPU-intensive. God of War was tested on Ultra without upscaling.
In 1080p tests, the Ryzen 9 5900x reached 140 FPS, while the Ryzen 7 5800X3D reached 133 FPS. In 1% low FPS reductions, the Ryzen 9 5900X was faster at 111 FPS than the Ryzen 7 5800X3D at 109 FPS.
Ryzen 7, 5800X3D averaged 132 FPS at 1440p, while Ryzen 9 5900X averaged 136. Ryzen 7, 5800X3D decreased to 92 FPS at 1% lows, while Ryzen 9 5900X dropped to 90.
GTA 5 Online
One of the most popular games, GTA 5 Online, has lost appeal. However, the game was a hit at release, much more so with the online multiplayer. It works on most mid-range CPUs and GPUs, including AMD’s top processors. The max settings were tested in GTA 5 Online.
The Ryzen 9 5900X outperformed the Ryzen 7 5800X3D in 1080p benchmarks at 162 FPS versus 130 FPS. Ryzen 9 5900X had 130 FPS 1% lows, whereas Ryzen 7 5800X3D had 120 FPS decreases.
Next, 1440p Ryzen 9 5900X provided a comparable boost to Ryzen 7 5800X3D but averaged 10% lower FPS. Ryzen 7 5800X3D had 2% lower FPS than Ryzen 9 5900X, although the difference was smaller.
Battlefield 2042, our final game, was recently released and became popular. Like previous iterations, it is a stunning FPS with fascinating gameplay. Because the game is CPU and GPU-heavy, FPS is poor.
Battlefield 2042 ran at 127 FPS on Ryzen 7 5800X3D at 1080p, compared to 117 FPS on Ryzen 9 5900X. The Ryzen 9 5900X decreased to 93 FPS, while the 5800X3D dropped to 92 FPS.
Finally, for 1440p, the Ryzen 7 5800X3D outperformed the Ryzen 9 5900X by 7 FPS. Ryzen 7 5800X3D had 85 FPS compared to Ryzen 9 5900X’s 79 FPS in 1% lows.
Far Cry 6
Ubisoft launched Far Cry 6 under the popular franchise. It’s badly optimized and demands a lot of CPU and GPU for best playability. Far Cry 6 was tested without DXR at high settings.
Ryzen 7 5800X3D outperformed Ryzen 9 5900X by 18% at 185 FPS in 1080p. Ryzen 7 5800X3D decreased to 142 FPS at 1% lows, while Ryzen 9 5900X dropped to 121 FPS.
Ryzen 7 5800X3D was better than Ryzen 9 5900X at 1440p, with an average FPS of 13% higher. Also, the average FPS of the Ryzen 9 5900X was lower than the 1% lows of the Ryzen 7 5800X3D. Ryzen 7 5800X3D had 16% more FPS than Ryzen 9 5900X for every 1% drop in FPS.
Overall Gaming Performance Summary
Most of AMD’s performance claims are accurate. The Ryzen 7 5800X3D is 10-20% faster at 1080p gaming than the Ryzen 9 5900X. In best-case scenarios with games that benefit most from L3 Cache, this performance gap maybe 25-30%.
Considering the performance disparity above, increasing the resolution to QHD (2560 x 1440) and UHD (3840 x 2160) will reduce the FPS gulf to less than 10%, on average, due to the CPU bottleneck shifting to the GPU.
However, the Ryzen 7 5800X3D outperforms the Ryzen 9 5900X despite having 300 MHz lower Base and Turbo speeds and 50% lower Core/Thread counts.
For the Ryzen 9 5900X vs Ryzen 7 5800X3D comparison, CPU-Monkey was used as a source for all the scores for the application tests.
Cinebench R23 (Single Core)
Cinebench R23 is great for testing CPU 3D rendering speed. The tests record time and rate it, which is intriguing. Cinebench R23 was single- and multi-core tested. This section covers the single-core exam.
On base clocks, Ryzen 7, 5800X3D, was 9% slower than Ryzen 9, 5900X. Ryzen 7 5800X3D performed slower, with an average test score 1491, compared to Ryzen 9 5900X’s 1636. This difference is due to Ryzen 9 5900X’s greater clock speeds than Ryzen 7 5800X3D.
Cinebench R23 (Multi Core)
The Ryzen 9 5900X outperformed the Ryzen 5800X3D by 32% in Cinebench R23 multi-core tests. The Ryzen 9 5900X scored 8468, compared to 5799 for the Ryzen 7 5800X3D. The Ryzen 9 5900X’s larger core count helps because these tests don’t depend on the L3 cache.
Cinebench R20 (Single Core)
Cinebench R20 is still used to benchmark CPUs for productivity. Overall, Cinebench R23 testing showed a similar difference. Single-core Cinebench R23 benchmark results were comparable to the graph. The Ryzen 7 5800X3D lagged 8% behind the Ryzen 9 5900X. Again, the Ryzen 9 5900X’s greater core clock speeds are to blame.
Cinebench R20 (Multi Core)
Cinebench R20 tested Ryzen 7 5800X3D and Ryzen 9 5900X with all cores to find which performs fastest. The difference here was identical to Cinebench R23, which isn’t concerning. We expect multi-core performance similar to Cinebench R23. Another performance difference between the Ryzen 9 5900X and the Ryzen 7 5800X3D is its greater core count. The Cinebench R23 benchmark showed the Ryzen 7 5800X3D was 32% slower than the Ryzen 9 5900X.
Designers use the free, open-source 3D modelling and rendering software Blender. Thus, the Ryzen 7 5800X3D and Ryzen 9 5900X were compared for Blender rendering time.
Due to its increased clock speeds, the Ryzen 9 5900X scored 20% faster in Blender 3.1 than the Ryzen 7 5800X3D. The Ryzen 9 5900X outperformed the Ryzen 7 5800X3D in all tests because of its quicker clock rates and more cores and threads. Cache, which greatly affected game FPS, is also ignored.
We were disappointed that the Ryzen 7 5800X3D has no unlocked multiplier. AMD set a maximum voltage threshold of 1.35V, compared to 1.50V for the Ryzen 9 5900X. In an unusual move, AMD is discouraging gamers and enthusiasts from overclocking the Ryzen 7 5800X3D because this is the first generation of the 3D V-Cache Architecture, which can permanently damage the L3 Cache layering mechanism and CPU silicon at higher clock frequencies.
However, skilled users can still perform BCLK (Base/Bus Clock) overclocking, which affects the speed of your motherboard/chipset and neighbouring components like CPU, RAM, and PCI-e devices. To maximize system performance, enthusiasts can adjust AMD’s Infinity Fabric settings and RAM frequencies. Real-world performance benefits, especially in gaming, will be modest.
However, the Ryzen 9 5900X frequently peaks at 4.95 GHz at default clock frequencies, suggesting its Boost Frequencies were overstated. Overclocking the Ryzen 5900X with AMD’s PBO2 (Precision Boost Overdrive 2), a software utility that automatically adjusts CPU frequencies and voltages for optimal performance, can boost its speed to 5.1 GHz, with most speed peaks capped near 5.0 GHz.
Whether you manually overclock the Ryzen 9 5900X or use AMD’s PBO2, gaming and productive workload performance will improve by less than 5%.
Power Consumption and Thermal Efficiency
The Ryzen 7 5800X3D and Ryzen 9 5900X have 105W TDP (Thermal Design Process) Ratings, while the latter can reach 160W if overclocked. As mentioned above, the Ryzen 7 5800X3D has problems with heat dissipation, which is why AMD restricted the multiplier to discourage overclocking and protect CPU performance and lifespan.
However, AMD’s complete portfolio of Zen 3 Vermeer CPUs, including all Ryzen 5000 Series Processors, has the highest power efficiency and performance-per-watt ratios, making it the most power-efficient desktop CPUs ever. However, AMD’s Zen 4 Series of Ryzen 7000 CPUs will change that.
AMD didn’t include Stock Cooling Solutions with the 5800X3D or 5900X because they knew most buyers would swap out the packaged cooler for an aftermarket one to maximize CPU performance. However, AM4 components are often cheaper, so you may find the Best CPU Coolers for Ryzen 7 5800X3D and Ryzen 9 5900X at reasonable costs.
Pricing and Availability
The Ryzen 7 5800X3D was released for $450, undercutting the Ryzen 9 5900X’s $550 MSRP. However, AMD’s Ryzen 7000 Series Processors, based on their modern Zen 4 (codenamed Raphael) Architecture and AM5 Mounting Platform, have caused a massive price drop for AM4 components, including older Zen 2/ Ryzen 3000 Series and Zen 3/Ryzen 5000 Series Processors, AM4 Motherboards, and AM4 CPU Coolers, as well as DDR4 RAM.
Thus, the tables have turned, and the Ryzen 7 5800X3D is currently $420, $30 off its MSRP, while the Ryzen 9 5900X is less than $390, $160 off its MSRP. That said, since they’re all based on a shared CPU platform, AM4, the Best Motherboards for Ryzen 7 5800X3D and 5900X, the Best CPU Coolers, and DDR4 RAM will remain mostly the same in price.
Ryzen 7 5800X3D vs Ryzen 9 5900X: Does 3D V-Cache hand the former CPU a clear-cut win?
The Ryzen 7 5800X3D was a great launch deal for gamers. For $100 less than the Ryzen 9 5900X, the 5800X3D offered 10-20% better 1080p gaming performance and substantial FPS benefits at 1440p. However, the 5900X outperforms daily apps and productivity workloads by 10% and 30% in single-threaded and multi-threaded operations.
Unfortunately for the 5800X3D, it only performs well in games and trails behind its closest sibling (in creative tasks), the Ryzen 7 5800X, which launched for $450 but is now available for less than $260, a difference of more than $160.
At 3.8 GHz and 4.7 GHz, the 5800X boasts greater Base and Turbo frequencies. The substantial price difference between the Ryzen 7 5800X and 5800X3D is hard to swallow, especially as the latter will only improve 1080p gaming performance.
Remember that all Ryzen 5000 Series Processors are based on the 6-year-old AM4 Platform, which is being phased out due to the AM5 Mounting Socket. Thus, the Ryzen 7 5800X3D doesn’t inspire future-proofing in prospective purchasers.
The 5800X3D’s thermal envelope restricts overclocking, unlike the Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 9 5900X, which come with unlocked multipliers and are ready to overclock.
Overall, the Ryzen 7 5800X3D may have been an instant hit at its release in late April 2022 due to cost differentials favouring AMD over the $340-$350 more expensive i9-12900KS as the Best Gaming CPU.
Unfortunately, with AMD’s Zen 4 Series of Ryzen 7000 Processors upcoming and the launch of the AM5 CPU Platform, pricing for older AM4 parts has changed drastically, with the Ryzen 9 5900X now unbelievably undercutting the 5800X3D by more than $30 while still offering full overclocking support, a higher Core/Thread count, and up to 30% better single-threaded and multi-threaded performance in real-world conditions.
Thus, we no longer recommend the Ryzen 7 5800X3D as the Best CPU for Gaming today. Consider daily applications that require 5800X3D-like performance. If so, consider the Ryzen 7 5800X, more than 60% less than the 5800X3D yet marginally faster in productivity-based applications.
Otherwise, the Ryzen 9 5900X is the Best All-Rounder CPU in 2022, surpassing the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, due to its drastically improved performance in daily tasks and 10-20% performance deficit in 1080p gaming, which decreases at 1440p or higher resolutions.
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Looking deeper into the complex world of high-performance processors, the Ryzen 7 5800X3D and Ryzen 9 5900X stand out as two strong contenders.
In the grand symphony of silicon, the Ryzen 7 5800X3D strikes a good mix between being cheap and being able to do a lot of computing. Its 8-core design and 3D V-Cache technology make switching between tasks and playing games easy. A smart choice for people who want great results without spending all their money.
On the other hand, the Ryzen 9 5900X walks boldly into the arena with a powerful 12-core group, showing its worth in tasks that use many resources. The Zen 3 architecture gives it the best single-threaded performance, perfect for a worker or gamer who wants speed and power without compromise.
Ultimately, based on your wants and goals, you should choose between the Ryzen 7 5800X3D and the Ryzen 9 5900X. The first is a good budget-friendly worker, while the second is the best computer ever made. Each chip dances to its beat, which promises an exciting show that matches your goals.
What’s the main difference between the Ryzen 9 5900X and Ryzen 7 5800X3D?
The Ryzen 7 5800X3D has 8x Cores, 16x Threads, 3.4 GHz Base and 4.5 GHz Turbo speeds, and 96 MB L3 Cache (due to AMD’s 3D V-Cache Stacking Technology). However, the Ryzen 9 5900X has 12x Cores and 24x Threads with Base and Turbo Clock Speeds of 3.7 GHz and 4.8 GHz. Remember that the 5900X has an unlocked multiplier ready for overclocking, while the 5800X3D has a factory-locked multiplier.
What is 3D V-Cache?
3D V-Cache (Vertical Cache) is AMD’s innovative method of creating a ‘stacked’ 3D Vertical Cache. The Ryzen 7 5800X3D has 64 MB of L3 Cache layered onto the CPU’s 32 MB, for a total of 96 MB, to boost gaming performance by 15% compared to the Ryzen 9 5900X.
Do these processors come with Stock Cooling Solutions?
The Ryzen 7 5800X3D and Ryzen 9 5900X do not come with AMD Stock CPU Coolers.
Can you overclock the Ryzen 7 5800X3D?
AMD locks the multiplier of the Ryzen 7 5800X3D to deter CPU overclocking and also has a peak voltage limit of 1.35V to protect the 3D V-Cache. However, speed freaks can toy with BCLK frequencies and Memory Overclocking with the right motherboard. However, real-world performance benefits are null.
Is the Ryzen 9 5900X better than 5800X3D?
While the Ryzen 9 5900X has a little lead in clock speed, thread count, and boost frequency, it trails the 5800X3D in most gaming benchmarks. This applies especially to GPU-limited games like Big City with an RTX3090 Ti.